What are you working on?

Resto...Yup you can still buy those replacement tie rod boots. I just used one earlier this year when one of the tie rod boots on the wagon decided it didn't like it's lot in life. :D

But I don't think it would look right having a boot like that on that car. For me it would stand out like a flashing red light!! I would probably take the measurements and hit up an upholstery shop and see if they can make you up a couple small leather boots.
 
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thrashingcows said:
I would probably take the measurements and hit up an upholstery shop and see if they can make you up a couple small leather boots.
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Bingo....or anyone with an industrial type sewing machine.

You can't cut up an old pair of shoes anymore, they're all made of cheap vinyl now. :(
 
Well I spent 4 hours cleaning parts. The boots for the brake cams are with out a doubt leather. They use copper wire to hold it closed on the small end and a strap with a cotter key on the big end. Whats left of the leather boots is J-U-N-K SHIT! :D They crumble at the slightest touch.

If I can find some leather, they shouldn't be to hard to make. although there is nothing there to use as a sample.
 
You know the size of the big end...and the size of the small end...and you know approx how long it needs to be. Seems like you have all the info you need. ;) Make a cone template out of cloth and then transfer that to leather. That's how I would do it.
 
ive seen some of those old boos on stuff like that made of heavy canvas...was it stock or a repair i dunno..but ive seen both materials used
 
There's a re-line shop at CarQuest, but I don't know if anyone there knows how to use the equipment anymore. I used to do it, but that was 25 years ago. The shop where Stretch works is also an Auto Value, and they have a large relining facility downstate that I'm sure could do it. However, due to the rarity of the parts and the desired "originality" of the work, I would both have a long conversation with the guy that is actually doing the relining, and I would ship them UPS insured rather than use the company's truck system. If the company loses or damages them, TFB. If UPS screws up, at least you can get your insurance money to use to find another set or have them made. I'd also send them two at a time (one each if front/rear are different, or side-to-side) so you have samples on-hand should something happen to the ones gone for lining work. Don't send the second two until you've gotten back the first two.

I would definitely farm out the leather boots to a seamstress, upholstery shop, or best of all a leather specialty shop. Stitching leather is not fun, and in such a small application, not easy either. Make sure they use raw, rough leather since it's very unlikely the originals were black, red, or bright yellow (unless it's the coveted Oakland R-type :D ).
 
Mark has a place lined up for the brake linings. He is also working on the leather boots. All that good stuff is up to him and the Oakland historical people. I'm just the wrench. Unless I hear otherwise.
 
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I cleaned up the bands. The linings are held to the bands with brass rivets. I'll get some pics posted up today. Chrissie is working so I'm entertaining the kiddos!

I'm also just about done with the bathroom project. I have 3 pieces of trim to cut and install. I'm going to tackle that when Brian goes down for a nap. Then all thats left is a little paint touch up.
 
Those brass rivets are what was used forever before bonding became the norm. That's all they have at Northern, too.
 
Yes. I know that. I relined brake shoes at the spring shop. Some of the old equipment that came in required that. Mack trucks mostly.
 
if you were out here id have 1 place in mid both clucth and brakes..."otts"...NO ONE around can do the quality they do
 
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Yes. I know that. I relined brake shoes at the spring shop. Some of the old equipment that came in required that. Mack trucks mostly.
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Oh, you made it sound like they were something unusual. Bonding didn't really become popular until the '80s, and even then--remember when we used to have the old-timers insist on riveted shoes and pads at OK Auto? They just didn't trust glue. :doh:
 
Dr.Jass said:
--remember when we used to have the old-timers insist on riveted shoes and pads at OK Auto? They just didn't trust glue. :doh:
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That's because the early bonding agents weren't always that good. Plus a lot of "old timers" believed in being able to have them re-lined the next time.

Occasionally you'll find NOS brake lining on ebay for some obscure car.
 
There are rolls of it at CarQuest, and everything required to make "NOS brake lining" for just about any brake application I'd ever see.
 
The original rear brake shows for the 1st Gen cummins trucks, 12"x3" were riveted. And if you want to replace them those are the ones you get if you want the good ones.
 
otts still does it the old way...if you want em like that its actualy cheeper......as well as bonded...they can do everything from motorcycles to big rigs..wet clutches dry, discks, drums, bands...if its got a friction surface they can do it
 
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