Rusty's not very quiet cuda progress

At one point I bought all the ECUs that Advance had, none of them worked. The manager was not happy but he traded me out until I had tried them all. Then I installed one that had been laying around here for a decade or more and the car fired up.

I don't believe that story about buying parts that failed inspection though. We used to tell tales like that when I was a mechanic too.
 
He was quoting some u-tube guru, as for he himself He thinks I got a returned carb, none of the settings were where the factory set them (according to the instructions that come with the carb)
My friend won't even go there, don't know why, but he drives miles to another place?
 
He was quoting some u-tube guru
There was definitely a problem with Chinese ECUs a couple years ago but IIRC they were all bad. There were reports all over FABO at the time. It's also funny that he thinks they actually test them. :D

It could be a returned carb. I got one once. I opened it up to be sure there wasn't any shavings etc in the bowl and someone had been inside it before.
 
Both Edelbrock and Holley sell "reman" versions of some of their carbs that were in fact returns, but they supposedly clean and test them. New gaskets might be installed if necessary. The carbs are reset to factory spec, reboxed, and shipped. Other than some witness marks around the bolt holes, they're indistinguishable from a new carburetor. Those carbs are never sold as new, and the part number on the box will not match the number stamped in the carburetor itself. As an example, a "reman" Edelbrock 1406 would have 6406 on the box (the latter's a guess but you get the idea).

If the carb smelled of gasoline when you first removed it from the box, then it was returned, put back on a shelf somewhere, and re-shipped without going back to Edelbrock. If it didn't stink, it was probably as Edelbrock shipped it.

It's worth mentioning that Edelbrock's quality control has apparently gone in the crapper in the last several years. If not since Vic Jr. died, it's certainly been since they left California. I haven't experienced it personally since I rarely if ever use their parts, but I've read enough around the interwebs to know things have gone sideways, particularly with their heads and intakes. At least one longtime racer/porting guru/Edelbrock head fan was recommending Speedmaster heads if one was going to have work done. Edelbrock castings had gotten inconsistent, with terrible core shift and porous castings. The issues were not exclusive to Edelbrock's Chrysler offerings, they seemed to be across the board. He claimed--not happily--that Speedmaster's raw castings were consistently better, but the machining needed to be checked and sometimes corrected. This was around the time I bought my Speedmaster heads, but in fairness it had no bearing on my purchase. Unless they were dirt cheap, I wouldn't have bought Edelbrocks for my purposes.
 
K, not too bad, took em a while tapping on the puter & calling a higher up, but I got a new carb, so where back to square one same as when I brought it in, this one better tune!
 
With vehicles I don't need there always waiting for a little slack time, He needs money jobs that go right back out.
When I was having that drain down problem with the PU he had it for 2 months!
When I was working my van got the premiere service, in & out quick, wife's car, well our car, got the same so I don't push now, If I didn't have all those brand new parts that failed It would have been cruising already!
 
He needs money jobs that go right back out
I keep seeing Facebook posts out of the shop with my road runner that there is no waiting list for collision work. "Money jobs". Meanwhile my car just sits there. I wish I had the energy to get pissed off instead of more of a FML feeling.
 
Holy shit, just got a call on the car, carbs gotta come off again, He set the timing & was getting ready to tune, & shut it off & friggen gas poured out, so he's asking if I want to bring it back again or pay him to tear it down & play with the floats, I said fix the damn thing.
I swear there's a big ole texas bandito ghost in this car hexing everything!
Jass you may not be wrong on winter storage!
 
K, floats were off, one hi one low, got it running tuned to vac at 15 on idle Still can't lean it out, carb adjustment screws only out 1/2 turn.
Fuel pressure at 7 1/2 (stock fuel pump)
He doesn't think that's the problem cause pressure holds in the line when off?
He's trying to research if there's any other cause for this before we but a jetting kit.

Any ideas on this mess that I can offer Him?

Alignment tomorrow other work is done, well cept for the A/C he went to check that & it was empty, damn It held a vac twice over night & ran here for 3 weeks before I brought it in, this is getting CRAZY!
 
Still can't lean it out, carb adjustment screws only out 1/2 turn.
In the Holley world that would be a lean mixture. If it's running right with 15 inches of vacuum I'd be tempted to say that's just what it wants and move on.

I don't know anything about a non-Holley but burning eyes at idle generally means you've got the primary blades open too far, exposing the transfer slot too much, so it's idling on the wrong circuit. Give it more timing, close down the idle speed screw, check again. But that might just be a Holley thing.

Hopefully you will get some drivable days before putting it up until good weather returns.
 
Brought in that info, He's pretty sure he's past that.
The discussion turned to maybe I have intake valves that are not closing all the way.
Motor has a cam, not sure what lifters but they are hydraulic & it had adjustable rockers, now I pulled those & installed factory rockers & new stock pushrods, I never compared the length of the push rods.
So His thinking is they are too tight (long) & are leaving the intake valves open & that's loading up the cylinders.

I junked the adj. rockers & pushrods!!!!

He wants me to do some tests, pull the covers spin the motor & see if I can spin at least a couple of pushrods at a time???

Car is not home yet, alignment was pushed off to monday.
 
I've got a set of factory pushrods here and can measure them for you but the info should be readily available via the google.

You could not have compared the pushrods for the adjustable rockers to factory pushrods because they are completely different. Ball/cup for the adjustable, ball/ball for the factory.

If it was holding valves open would that not kill the compression?

Let me know if you need pushrods or rockers and I will send them right out.
 
Let me make an attempt at the test he wants me to do, once we make sure we are chasing the right problem I will buy them from you, he would want to go back to adjustable to have the ability to adjust out the problem.
His thinking is the cam changes the lifter height & that's why they went adjustable to match the cam.

This stuff is way over my head, I can change parts but all this internal stuff I never got into?.
 
Another thing to think about - if too-long pushrods were holding the intake valve open it wouldn't load up the cylinder; instead you would have compression coming back up through the intake and out the carb.

But it definitely won't hurt to check the pushrod length.

I will buy them from you
No, they're free, consider it a swap for the windage tray you sent me. I am going on a cheap/free/scrap binge through my parts once I am back to near normal again and the factory valve train parts I have would likely end up at the recyclers anyway.
 
Good to hear your feeling better!

When I get it home I'll open it up & try to do his feel for slack test, I can pull a pushrod & get it measured.
Do you have adjustable rockers?

I'll pass on that tidbit about the compression to him, I'm not sure of why he's thinking it's loading the cylinders.
He said once I hit over 1000 or so rpm's it runs nice?

Was just on face book a couple of the old nuts/scatpackers just heard about Jass, Jason Erkkila posted a life's celebration Sat. 23rd at bob & Jerrys 1 to 5 PM.
 
Good to hear your feeling better!

When I get it home I'll open it up & try to do his feel for slack test, I can pull a pushrod & get it measured.
Do you have adjustable rockers?

I'll pass on that tidbit about the compression to him, I'm not sure of why he's thinking it's loading the cylinders.
He said once I hit over 1000 or so rpm's it runs nice?

Was just on face book a couple of the old nuts/scatpackers just heard about Jass, Jason Erkkila posted a life's celebration Sat. 23rd at bob & Jerrys 1 to 5 PM.
I'm not feeling better, wish I was.

I have adjustables in the new engine but still have the factory parts that came with it.

Improvement over 1000 rpms could be due to being on a different circuit in the carb, or more advance in the distributor too.

I tried to find those posts on Facebook, but no joy.
 

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