Rusty's not very quiet cuda progress

Would you know if those quarter window rubbers are the same on a challe as the cuda & even the door panel strips I posted, if so they are yours too!
The ones that clear the glass (the beltline weatherstrip, sometimes called "cat whiskers") are specific to the car. The 'Cuda parts don't fit the Challenger and vise-versa. I'm rattling my brain for anyone I know with a '71-newer 'Cuda, but no names are registering at the moment. Kev has a '70, but the '70 belt weatherstrips are one-year-only.

The roll-up seals that go on the quarter glass itself (VS7M) are the same between both models from 1971-'74, but once again, 1970 models used a different design.
 
Roll ups will be tagged for you.
I bought a seal kit for this car & those did not come with it, I just bought the "extra" set recently, guess I didn't replace em on the 73, wish I knew I had them before I ordered another set!
 
Well again I figured I'd start with something easy, grab the cowl screens & screws & head out there.
Stick one in, I think they shrunk a bit, on both sides I had a hard time getting one end of the back in the slot, then I notice there's NO HOLES in my cowl for the screws???
So I drag out the drill, luckily the new screws were self-tappers, if all the clips were there I would have just left it.
In went the screws & they are done! 20231214_144424.jpg
 
Bounced the car up & down as much as I could & started jacking it back up, rear went well.
Up front I had a hard time getting it high enough to get the ramps under

tried from the side even with a 2x4 on the jack way short! 20231214_143237.jpgWith it up some I was able to get under the K with a 4x4 on the jack, mann this is shaky stuff!
Almost at the limit of the jack I was able to slide them under & kinda roll the wheel & kick the ramp to get it all the way under.
Sucks when you can't just drive the car up!
I hope there's enough room to the fence in the back that I can at least roll it off???20231214_144109.jpgCouple of mild days coming, hope I can get it all torqued down & done under there.
 
Then I opened up the new bumper, looks like the wrong bumper was on the car, wonder where that came from?
the bumper guard round hole lines up with the inner bracket, I can just use a bumper bolt there, the new one has the holes in the top & the ends for the bumper bolts & this jack slot is between the 2 brackets! 20231214_130047.jpg20231214_131040.jpg20231214_131108.jpg
 
I knew it wasn't going to be easy torquing those bolts, but some were impossible!
Some I could not get a torque wrench on the nuts, the heavy duty ones I could I had zero leverage laying under there.
LCA pivot arm , front spring bolt on the leafs & the strut rod to LCA, went as tight as I could for now will make a note for my mechanic when I go for the alignment & he has it on a lift!
Got what I could underneath, still have a couple to recheck & then do the top of the shocks.
I beat myself up crawling in & out of there, my arms weigh a ton!
 
Mark (charger man) came over to work on his jeep & coerced him in to helping me a bit too.
We got the hood on, a ton of adjusting to do but now I don't have to worry about the snows that will come. 20231216_162442.jpg20231216_162502.jpg
 
between helping him on the jeep I got the top of the shocks done, got one old pin back in the front of the strut rods & ended up using a cotter pin on the other, the darn 25 pins I had to buy to get one were too big, I pounded on one for a while got it about half way through the stud & then looked at the old one, at least one size smaller, so I pulled it & stuck in the cotter, not buying another 25 to get one!!!
So we torqued all the steering links to 40' lbs, have to pull the wheels to get the last 2 top outers.
& put in the cotter pins, also have to put cotters on the lower ball joints somehow that got missed, that's gonna suck.
So only one piece under there concerns me, there's a gap on the pitman at the bottom, now this is an original piece as is the rod, mine had no grease fitting, he put an electric gun on it & that's as far as it went, had to back off a tad to get back to 40, I have to look that spec up again not sure if it's different from the links?
Here's the gap?
Hole for the cotter pin is clear. 20231216_152715.jpg
 
Bounced the car up & down as much as I could & started jacking it back up, rear went well.
Up front I had a hard time getting it high enough to get the ramps under
You bounced it more after it was on the ramps? The bounce is to settle the suspension, and after raising it up, it's not going to be settled.
 
#1 too late! I did have to jounce the wheels quite a bit to get them on the ramps?
#2 I will google pitmans & felt washers & see what pops up. Thanks!
 
I'm going to take a walk shortly to go scavenge some connectors off the parts '74. ;) I'll have a look at the steering linkage on both cars (the '71 is over there as well) and see if I can tell what's happening with yours. I'll bring the camera with me.

Anything else I should eyeball whilst I'm over there?
 
Probably not till you get back!
At the moment that's the only thing that didn't look right?
My brandy new links are already starting to rust, I HATE RUST!
 
K links are done, good thing I saw no pin in the drivers lower ball joint, went to put it in & the nut moved!
I never finished that one, now I have about 3or 4 inches to turn a socket & no way a torque wrench is getting in there, tightened it as far as my arms could & grabbed a 3' piece of pipe & skrunched it down, cotter hole was in the crown so I hope it's close, that was 125' lbs if I remember.
On a lighter note, too bad the blue on the tires wasn't nice & even, it matches the car nicely! 20231217_135130.jpgmanaged to get the drivers side carpet to where I can live with it & found out one of my screw holes for the edge plate is stripped out! 20231217_134912.jpg
The front holes for the seat bases went easier than I thought, I was leaning on one to find the hole & it popped right thru, so I just pressed the other thru too!
 
Probably not till you get back!
At the moment that's the only thing that didn't look right?
My brandy new links are already starting to rust, I HATE RUST!
I've mentioned it a dozen times in various threads over the years, but I'll do it again:

Pioneer T58A cast-iron spray paint
. Period.

It's engine paint. I've never found any other paint closer to natural steel in years of looking. This stuff is so close, if you get distracted halfway through a part and have to come back to it, you probably won't be able to tell what you've already sprayed. It's that good.

In this photo, the center section and drums are painted with it. It's a night photo (flash), but you get the idea:

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See if you can find a local dealer for it, or if there's a nearby machine shop that uses Pioneer products--many do, in fact that's where I discovered it. My local machine shop was the only place around that had even heard of it. You don't want to pay online prices for it--holy smokes! If our warehouse had it on hand, it would be about $16/can retail. The last time I bought it retail, I think I paid $6.48/can... and I moaned about that! Yikes.

Let me look around the garage. I bought a case of it at some point, maybe two. If I haven't burned through all of it since then--I use it on everything that's supposed to be unpainted steel--I might have a can that could find its way to you with the connectors. ;)
 
Eastwoods cast iron was pretty close, I didn't like their bare metal, but they did rust on the other car, this car I added a coat of clear over them, so far holding?
It's funny I painted almost all the new parts, even clear coated the brake fuel & tranny lines, some how I missed the front end kit!.
I'll google that stuff & see what comes up?
 
found a couple, 1 for 25.65 another for 20.99 & the winner on amazon, 8.65
but said one left in stock, should I just get it, probably by the time I order it will be gone?
 
I probably replaced 100 ball joints/tie rod ends when I was working an alignment rack in the 70s/80s and never once did a torque wrench touch one. We ran them down with an impact and then by hand to align the pin hole and the castle nut.
 
Did the first car all by hand, I think breaking bar was the most robust I got, held up a few years before I shipped the poor thing to England!
 
So only one piece under there concerns me, there's a gap on the pitman at the bottom, now this is an original piece as is the rod, mine had no grease fitting, he put an electric gun on it & that's as far as it went, had to back off a tad to get back to 40, I have to look that spec up again not sure if it's different from the links?
Here's the gap?
Hole for the cotter pin is clear. View attachment 26908
Not sure why it didn't occur to me looking at the photo, but I smacked m'self in the forehead after I looked at my '74... where's the boot?! That fills the gap nicely. Yours is probably lying around there somewhere. There's supposed to be one on the idler arm too, for the record.

Check out that supposed frame rail. Man, this car is rough.

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Whilst I was over at the storage area, I learned a few things.
First of all, the factory interlock switch connector is (was) still on my car. It's the same as yours, only it's red. $10 says that's how the originals were, but it wasn't called out in the blueprints so the reproduction connectors are black.
Next, the way they rewired the car for the override seems to bypass the system by itself. They certainly went the long way around, though. I'm thinking it was a semi-savvy dealer tech that had his fingers in there, because it doesn't seem likely Chrysler engineering would've signed off on it. I could be wrong. I say "semi-savvy" because there was a much-more direct way to go about bypassing it. He probably kept switching wires around until the car started, since there's no breakdown of how any of the switches actually worked.
Regardless, technically you only need one connector, and that's just to make things look good. Realistically you could re-wire the parts on the car and make it work, with one wire left hanging and a bare terminal on the switch. We'll not leave wires hanging. This is a class operation, man. I'll send the parts with the override switch, keyed so you know where to put your wires.
I also learned, via some vigorous scraping, that the car was the same color originally as your bought-new '74. I've been trying to figure that out since I bought it. The car's been painted six times not including the original factory hue. Near as I can tell, it was black, then orange, then blue, then purple, then a lighter blue, then back to what's left of the current black.

Going (way) back to the steering column, I took some measurements. Unfortunately, the lack of a third hand prevented taking photos, holding a flashlight (it's dark in there!) and keeping the tape measure in place. So I just took a decent photo of the gap from the key-release lever to the bottom of the cluster.

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The gap between the lever and the column is 3/4", or very close to it. The face of the lever (where the decal goes) is 5/8" behind the face of the gauge cluster bezel at the bottom edge. There was no way for me to get a photo of the set-back because A) I can't get in the passenger's door, and B) the big hoop in the gauge bezel to go around the speedometer blocks it from the driver's side.
I completely forgot to take a picture of the steering column coupler at the box; I didn't remember that until just now.

If you can get that paint for $8.65 shipped, or if the shipping's under $6, I'd say go for it (and it's a shame they don't have more). Spray-paint prices have steadily increased in the last three years. My cost on I-H Red went up $12/can!
 

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