Diplomat_Wagon
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I would prefer the reliability of naturally aspirated. The Turbo Suzuki 3 bangers went the way of the Turbo K-car. I.E Boom.
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I would prefer the reliability of naturally aspirated. The Turbo Suzuki 3 bangers went the way of the Turbo K-car. I.E Boom.
Diplomat_Wagon
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No turbo k cars out here.
restoman
The paint fumes have cleared so I'm
No shit! Back in the early 90s I worked briefly at a local dealer and got to road test a Turbo Firefly. A little slow on the get-go but it pulled hard through the upper gears. Pretty light-weight cars.
Down the highway and winding it through third - the 85mph speedo was just pegged - when a semi went by in the oncoming lane and nearly blew me off the road!
I slowed down after that...
69.5CUDA
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yeah ive heard alot of storys about the turbo geo's being just crazy fun and fast..but i also remember watching the MTV races back when they were NEW and they were a hoot to watch race....note i said fast..not so much quick lol...but quick for what they are and size/weight
Dr.Jass
Pastor of Muppets
Try a mid-'80s Colt Turbo sometime. Holy hell balls were those cars fun, especially with the overdrive manual which was a lot like the Corvette's 4+3 manual at the time. You could engage overdrive in any gear but first, which helped load the engine and keep the boost up. Those suckers were absolute pocket rockets; VW never made a GTI that could hang with one.
The #1 thing that kills turbos is shutting them off immediately when you park. When I used to install remote starters, if it was a turbocharged engine, I always hooked up the "Turbo Timer" function, and explained to the owner that yes, the car will run for a minute after you shut it off and remove the key. It gives the turbocharger time to wind down while there's still oil pressure. It should come as no surprise that something turning as much as 100,000RPM won't last long with no oil flow.
When I crashed my '86 Laser XT Turbo, it had nearly 200,000 miles on it with the original turbocharger AND valve-cover gasket. The previous, and original, owner had always let it spool down before turning it off, and never ran anything but Mobil 1 in it.
The #1 thing that kills turbos is shutting them off immediately when you park. When I used to install remote starters, if it was a turbocharged engine, I always hooked up the "Turbo Timer" function, and explained to the owner that yes, the car will run for a minute after you shut it off and remove the key. It gives the turbocharger time to wind down while there's still oil pressure. It should come as no surprise that something turning as much as 100,000RPM won't last long with no oil flow.
When I crashed my '86 Laser XT Turbo, it had nearly 200,000 miles on it with the original turbocharger AND valve-cover gasket. The previous, and original, owner had always let it spool down before turning it off, and never ran anything but Mobil 1 in it.
71ChargerRT
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Finding a mid-80`s anything in any shape is tough these days, especially after cash for clunkers and scrap prices hitting record high prices. I had friends buying cars and trucks driving them straight to scrappers and making $2-300 with little to no effort.
I really need to start letting my truck idle a minute before I shut it down, I know I should, I just don`t.
I really need to start letting my truck idle a minute before I shut it down, I know I should, I just don`t.
restoman
The paint fumes have cleared so I'm
I asked a buddy about letting the engine run after stopping in my wife's S40 right shorty after we bought it. We've never owned a turbo car before and didn't want to kill it before its time.
He's one of the top Volvo techs in Canada for the last 7 or 8 years.
He laughed and then gave a long technical explanation about rpm, modern oils and machining, oil saturation, heat build-up, etc...
Short of it was he said unless you come screaming into a parking lot or driveway at 6000 rpm and immediately shut the engine off before it has a chance to return to idle, don't worry about it. He stressed heavily the importance of quality oil - he prefers synthetic - and regular oil & filter changes and keeping a close eye on coolant levels.
The best part was when he looked closely at my wife and said "The gauges were put there for a reason, watch them!"
Turbo diesels were something else entirely he said, the low rpm needing more time to cool before shut-down.
Every once in a while I'll take her car out for a blast and when that little 1.9 litre turbo gets moving, it's a LOT of fun. Around 3 grand you can begin to feel it pull and it'll run easily and quickly to 7000 (I've never kept my foot in it past that), pulling hard all the way. But the best part of the car is that the Asian-Warner transmission is perfectly matched to the engine, letting the engine do what it should.
Turbos are a blast!
He's one of the top Volvo techs in Canada for the last 7 or 8 years.
He laughed and then gave a long technical explanation about rpm, modern oils and machining, oil saturation, heat build-up, etc...
Short of it was he said unless you come screaming into a parking lot or driveway at 6000 rpm and immediately shut the engine off before it has a chance to return to idle, don't worry about it. He stressed heavily the importance of quality oil - he prefers synthetic - and regular oil & filter changes and keeping a close eye on coolant levels.
The best part was when he looked closely at my wife and said "The gauges were put there for a reason, watch them!"
Turbo diesels were something else entirely he said, the low rpm needing more time to cool before shut-down.
Every once in a while I'll take her car out for a blast and when that little 1.9 litre turbo gets moving, it's a LOT of fun. Around 3 grand you can begin to feel it pull and it'll run easily and quickly to 7000 (I've never kept my foot in it past that), pulling hard all the way. But the best part of the car is that the Asian-Warner transmission is perfectly matched to the engine, letting the engine do what it should.
Turbos are a blast!
Diplomat_Wagon
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I heard a similar explanation from a VW tech about Turbo cars.
Synthetic oil has permanently changed the face of engine wear.
Far superior to conventional in almost every way.
Just make sure to run an additive in anything old and you'll be fine.
Synthetic oil has permanently changed the face of engine wear.
Far superior to conventional in almost every way.
Just make sure to run an additive in anything old and you'll be fine.
Dr.Jass
Pastor of Muppets
I've been running synthetics in most everything since my XT, but I still prefer to let a turbo wind down. It also makes a difference depending on the style of turbo. Bushings vs. bearings on the turbo's shaft, for instance. It certainly can't hurt. I totally agree about synthetics; how many other 200K-mile, all-original turbo Mopars are in your memory banks? That's the only one of which I'm aware. The only "internal" work that had been done was timing belts. It never broke one, she was just vigilant about it. It was on its fourth when I bought it--every 50K it got a new one.
I know of at least one engine that does not like synthetic oil--the Ford PowerJoke 7.3 and 6.0, because of the way the injectors are run off their 3-stage oiling system. The two primary shops that work on them around here, Kurtz Diesel and the Ford dealership, when faced with a miss, will first ask the customer, "Are you running synthetic oil?" If the customer says yes, they do an oil change and put in 15W-40 Rotella. 90% of the time, problem solved.
The great thing about that "turbo timer" feature is that you shut the car off, lock the doors, and walk away like you normally would. It just keeps running for about 30 seconds. The car can't be stolen during that time, either, because the second someone touches the brake pedal, the engine shuts down and will not restart until the security feature of the remote start system is shut off. Until that blue LED goes out, you're not going anywhere.
I know of at least one engine that does not like synthetic oil--the Ford PowerJoke 7.3 and 6.0, because of the way the injectors are run off their 3-stage oiling system. The two primary shops that work on them around here, Kurtz Diesel and the Ford dealership, when faced with a miss, will first ask the customer, "Are you running synthetic oil?" If the customer says yes, they do an oil change and put in 15W-40 Rotella. 90% of the time, problem solved.
The great thing about that "turbo timer" feature is that you shut the car off, lock the doors, and walk away like you normally would. It just keeps running for about 30 seconds. The car can't be stolen during that time, either, because the second someone touches the brake pedal, the engine shuts down and will not restart until the security feature of the remote start system is shut off. Until that blue LED goes out, you're not going anywhere.
v8440
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I test drove and almost bought a '98 dodge dually with the 12v cummins in it. The guy selling it was the original owner. It had never had the turbo off the engine, and he had run conventional oil it's entire life. The truck had a little over 830,000 miles (NOT km) on it at the time it was for sale. It was a plumbing company service truck, driven by many different people that didn't own it. You do the math, your mileage may vary.
Stretch
Hey! There’s no easy button for a body like this!
The chain in the transmission for my 4x4 4wheeler was stretched out and it would "skip" in reverse. I pulled the trans out and split it open, pulled the 3 shafts, pressed the bearings off, changed the gear and chain (one gear for the chain is part of the shaft and cant be chainged) pressed the bearings back on and reassembled the tranny. I just need to put it back in the bike now. I also finished assembling Chrissies wheeler after rebuilding the engine. I fired it up yesterday and took it for a small ride around the block. I just need to adjust the rear drive chain and the carb. I then went out to the shed and tried to start my snowmobile. I rebult all three carbs after the last season I used it. That was 4 years ago. The fuel system has been completly dry ever sence. I dumped 10 gallons of premium gas in it and watched helplessly as 10 gallons of gas poured out of the bottom of the tank. The fuel line fitting that comes out of the tank and feeds the fuel pump is cracked. I didnt sware but I'm not impressed. I pulled the air box off to get at that fitting so I can order one tomorrow.
I also cleaned the house and made grilled chicken for Chrissie and the kids, cleaned up the kitchen and then made a wisky marinade for the tenderloin I'm smoking today.
So how did you spend your Saturday?
I also cleaned the house and made grilled chicken for Chrissie and the kids, cleaned up the kitchen and then made a wisky marinade for the tenderloin I'm smoking today.
So how did you spend your Saturday?
restoman
The paint fumes have cleared so I'm
Worked on some parts for DCF's Charger till 2PM, came home and put a shank ham in the slow cooker, finished up some minor duct work to the new furnace and then watched Skyfall after supper.
Oh yeah, got the snow blower running. When you get your 18 year old son to try and start it after it sits all summer, one would think he would check to see if there was gas in it, no?
Diplomat_Wagon
Hiding In The Bushes While
I upgraded my PC with an SSD drive for the operating system.
Assembled my new drill press (and got it out of the living room)
Helped put away the Christmas decorations.
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Dr.Jass
Pastor of Muppets
I worked at CarQuest in the morning, then came home and beat up the dog for a while playing her two favorite games: tug of war and "slap face". 
Made some arrangements to fix a Ford Tempo next week, even though I hate rusty brake lines with a passion and Fords in particular. All the parts are ordered. Turned on some football and decided to make supper, and came to an amazing realization: the best Buffalo-style chicken one can get in this town comes out of a freakin' bag from one of the local groceries. Wow... and inexpensive, too.
Today I'm considering making a porketta roast or maybe pulled pork. I'm just not sure I want to walk to the store.
Made some arrangements to fix a Ford Tempo next week, even though I hate rusty brake lines with a passion and Fords in particular. All the parts are ordered. Turned on some football and decided to make supper, and came to an amazing realization: the best Buffalo-style chicken one can get in this town comes out of a freakin' bag from one of the local groceries. Wow... and inexpensive, too.Today I'm considering making a porketta roast or maybe pulled pork. I'm just not sure I want to walk to the store.
thrashingcows
Drowning deep in my sea of loathing...so I'm
Today I'm considering making a porketta roast or maybe pulled pork. I'm just not sure I want to walk to the store.
Well you don't have to leave the house to get pulled pork...:shifty: