Ah! Whole different ballgame as far as price goes, huh?
That sucks.
That sucks.
tiny...aka 1958 lloyd
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yeah but it will allow me to mount the master inside the dash, mount the pedals where I am comfortable and have no crap hanging into the engine bay.....as well as no obstruction for the power windshield
both times ive seen one "used" when i didnt have the $$$ go for about 125-150$ with masters......there REALY common on alot of race cars....anyone got any oval track cras laying around they can check?....tilton, afco, wilwood, coleman, howe
both times ive seen one "used" when i didnt have the $$$ go for about 125-150$ with masters......there REALY common on alot of race cars....anyone got any oval track cras laying around they can check?....tilton, afco, wilwood, coleman, howe
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well picked up a few small scraps of 18 guage so i can do some skin work..also managed to find 1 8 foot and 1 4 foot piece of 1.5x.120 round tube to see if i can bend it without kinking it and.....SUCSESS!!!!!!.....the yard will have me some 20foot sticks in mid week at 40$ each...calculated weight of 40 feet of .120 is about 70lbs....70lbs for a FULL cage...i can live with that(i need about 4 feet over 40 feet)
anyway i was inspecting my progress and eyeballing some stuff and cleaning some welds....at the front of the car there used to be a sheetmetal rail that ran from the front rails up to the cowl and into the window pillars....i have been trying to decide how i wanted to remove and replace it..after some long inspection removeing and replaceing was pretty much out of the question due to alot of inaccessable areas and the way it ties into the fram rails..simply made more sense to leave it be and tie it into the current front end tube frame id built....sooo with some marks trimming and trial and error fitting i came up with these small triangulations over them and welded to them as seen in the pic's..should also help support the fairly weak(or so im told) shock mounts a bit more....this thing is getting SUPER STIFF...should do killer on a track should it get the chance
the next pics are a little hard to understand...the transaxle retains the clutch and flywheel...sooo its a little portly and badly proportioned ...not to mention somewhat in the way of where i want to put the seats....sooooo im after ideas of how to re-configure this area as well as figuireing out how to get the seats where I want them
anyway i was inspecting my progress and eyeballing some stuff and cleaning some welds....at the front of the car there used to be a sheetmetal rail that ran from the front rails up to the cowl and into the window pillars....i have been trying to decide how i wanted to remove and replace it..after some long inspection removeing and replaceing was pretty much out of the question due to alot of inaccessable areas and the way it ties into the fram rails..simply made more sense to leave it be and tie it into the current front end tube frame id built....sooo with some marks trimming and trial and error fitting i came up with these small triangulations over them and welded to them as seen in the pic's..should also help support the fairly weak(or so im told) shock mounts a bit more....this thing is getting SUPER STIFF...should do killer on a track should it get the chance
the next pics are a little hard to understand...the transaxle retains the clutch and flywheel...sooo its a little portly and badly proportioned ...not to mention somewhat in the way of where i want to put the seats....sooooo im after ideas of how to re-configure this area as well as figuireing out how to get the seats where I want them
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after talking with resto a bit on body mounts, shims, body panel adjustment, etc, etc...i came up with these...should keep me setup for the slightest deviation in panel alignment
im also re-wroking the ENTIRE rear primary suspension mount due to a need for more space as well as i felt the sheetmetal frame work was rubish...so im going to replace the sheetmetal mount with 3x1x.120 box tubeing
resto if you pop in ..look at the last pic..i was thinking about cutting that mount off and makeing a 2 bolt adjustment out of it so it could slide up down forward back or shimmed in/out...atm its tacked on the front corner of the wheelwell retaining the stock measurement from the lloyds chassis
im also re-wroking the ENTIRE rear primary suspension mount due to a need for more space as well as i felt the sheetmetal frame work was rubish...so im going to replace the sheetmetal mount with 3x1x.120 box tubeing
resto if you pop in ..look at the last pic..i was thinking about cutting that mount off and makeing a 2 bolt adjustment out of it so it could slide up down forward back or shimmed in/out...atm its tacked on the front corner of the wheelwell retaining the stock measurement from the lloyds chassis
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a few more steps forward on the chassis bracing..TOTAL redesign of the rear chassis cross member to make space for the seats...this meant carefully and slowly holding the chassis still and the rear suspension..then removing the old BULKY cross member and then making a new one from scratch..re-used the spacer blocks and the nuts but welded thrm into the 1x3x.120 box tube...
then tied it into the rear and front rails as well as my new rocker tube
tomarro ill grab some more steel and order up a sheet of 18guage and do the other side...sometime next week ill start laying the floor pans and the fill panels for the rear fenders
then tied it into the rear and front rails as well as my new rocker tube
tomarro ill grab some more steel and order up a sheet of 18guage and do the other side...sometime next week ill start laying the floor pans and the fill panels for the rear fenders
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gomopar440
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Looks like it's coming together very nicely there.:clap:
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well nothing real special cept a walk thru of how i did the passenger side transaxle mounting crossmember
if you havnt figured it out by now...the first side i do (on everything) is a test run to prove my own ideas...then i do the walk thru detailed pic's when i do the reamining side
anyway the old crosmmeber is you look back a few pics was this HUGE tube of thin sheetmetal and was a major problem as it blocked my seating abilitys ....i choped it down to the mounting points then cut out the spacer block and nuts..choped the block down a bit to fit inside of the 3x1 tube and cut holes out for the nuts..drilled holes in the side of the tube to weld the block in place and welded the nuts in and welded the tube to the rocker rail.....more pic's in about an hour..camera took a crap on me and i had to format the disc
if you havnt figured it out by now...the first side i do (on everything) is a test run to prove my own ideas...then i do the walk thru detailed pic's when i do the reamining side
anyway the old crosmmeber is you look back a few pics was this HUGE tube of thin sheetmetal and was a major problem as it blocked my seating abilitys ....i choped it down to the mounting points then cut out the spacer block and nuts..choped the block down a bit to fit inside of the 3x1 tube and cut holes out for the nuts..drilled holes in the side of the tube to weld the block in place and welded the nuts in and welded the tube to the rocker rail.....more pic's in about an hour..camera took a crap on me and i had to format the disc
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ok camera charged just enuf..disc empty
welded up some braces for the swaybar mounts ..they should be plenty solid now..by far more solid than factory as you can see they simply floated out there on a floor pan
finished up the drivers side tranny cross and heres the step by steps..admitedly some ugly welds..ill clean em up tomaro..to late to make that kind of noise tonight
the transaxle shot..that craptastic mangle is the STOCK shift linkage..you can see why im going to go cable shift
welded up some braces for the swaybar mounts ..they should be plenty solid now..by far more solid than factory as you can see they simply floated out there on a floor pan
finished up the drivers side tranny cross and heres the step by steps..admitedly some ugly welds..ill clean em up tomaro..to late to make that kind of noise tonight
the transaxle shot..that craptastic mangle is the STOCK shift linkage..you can see why im going to go cable shift
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gomopar440
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Are you priming or rust proofing the insides of the metal pieces you're welding permently in place?
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ill rust proof when i get there..probably just drill some small holes and use my tiny wand sprayer that i setup...i made a ultra small nozle setup for an undercoating gun...so i only need a hole about 3/8s inch to proof any un-accessable areas..some of the enclosed stuff ill probably never worry about...
we dont salt our roads..it almost never snows so rust on the west coast is so slow its almost non existent ....the "finished" plan for everything but the exterior body is to, rust proof, seam sealer, then top it all off with a rubberized truck bed coating ..both for sound and durability
we dont salt our roads..it almost never snows so rust on the west coast is so slow its almost non existent ....the "finished" plan for everything but the exterior body is to, rust proof, seam sealer, then top it all off with a rubberized truck bed coating ..both for sound and durability
gomopar440
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I was thinking of something similar for the Challenger. Some of the stuff got welded shut before I got it prepped. Oops...
Nick
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I just got a chance to skim through this thread and I must say this is one bad ass project! Looking good my friend.
So, I have an idea for you. I think that when all is said and done and it's time for paint, flat black should be your color and there should be a white skull and crossbones on the hood. The radio should play nothing but Slayer.
So, I have an idea for you. I think that when all is said and done and it's time for paint, flat black should be your color and there should be a white skull and crossbones on the hood. The radio should play nothing but Slayer.
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i gotta say like how you think. if this where my project i would totally blow by some playground blasting reign in blood with flames shooting out of the exhaust pipes = P
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haha no joke dude you are cool in my book :bravo: i guess thats why when i drove around in my food escort blasting six feet under and little old women and ghetto thugs in their impallas stopped next to me and stared lol.. regardless looking at that motor in that little ass car id say 69.5 is gonna have a rocket :gaga:
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a rocket indeed!!!!...i ran the power to weight #'s on a guess of 1800LBS wich im 95% positive i can actualy get it closer to 1600..and with a STOCK HP its got a power to weight ratio better than 95% of ALL porsches, most vettes, bmw's(amg6 is a hair better in power to weight)....it actualy shows up as better than just about everything out there except for "super cars" aka lambo, ferarri(its actualy better than a few of em) mclaren, ..you get the idea......its VERY motivating to know that it should out brake and out handle damn neer eveything localy
course im "planing" on once down most likely swaping out the engine for the one thats in the gtv6 (the 2.5 in the gtv6 is an ANIMAL i only wish i knew its background besides the OBVIOUS cams)unless i can find a 3.0l for cheep(and have cash in hand to grab it) wich will bump me into the 300+ hp range...where ill be knocking on the back door of the super cars...course i could also look at going SC'ed for about 3k$ wich nets me 400+ hp on only 10lbs of boost and scream into the 8000rpm+ redline shifts while running 89 octane fuel......supercars be damned
course im "planing" on once down most likely swaping out the engine for the one thats in the gtv6 (the 2.5 in the gtv6 is an ANIMAL i only wish i knew its background besides the OBVIOUS cams)unless i can find a 3.0l for cheep(and have cash in hand to grab it) wich will bump me into the 300+ hp range...where ill be knocking on the back door of the super cars...course i could also look at going SC'ed for about 3k$ wich nets me 400+ hp on only 10lbs of boost and scream into the 8000rpm+ redline shifts while running 89 octane fuel......supercars be damned
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well yesterday i spent mostly chaseing welds..obscure angles and laying on my back to see most of em...stuff i had intended to wait till later and strip the car to bare and hang it from the ceiling
anyway i welded "most" of em up and i also ran a "spine" down the center of the car..in an attempt to chase out the remaining chassis flex...i cut out my "support" centerline brace and it snapped back 1 inch telling me i had HUGE flex issue to chase out...so in went the spine....i jacked up the car and centered out the level of it and fabed and welded in the spine...the result is now that i only have 1/4 inch of sag/flex...HUGE improvement imo..as we are talking 1/4inch from end to end of the car.....still planning a cage to chase out that remaining flex
as well as the "spine" i also welded a plate into one of the triangles up front to "finish" it..will do the other side tomaro
next up, start on the floor pans
well shit i cant upload any attatchments ...sites FUBAR atm...sending pm
lets try again
anyway i welded "most" of em up and i also ran a "spine" down the center of the car..in an attempt to chase out the remaining chassis flex...i cut out my "support" centerline brace and it snapped back 1 inch telling me i had HUGE flex issue to chase out...so in went the spine....i jacked up the car and centered out the level of it and fabed and welded in the spine...the result is now that i only have 1/4 inch of sag/flex...HUGE improvement imo..as we are talking 1/4inch from end to end of the car.....still planning a cage to chase out that remaining flex
as well as the "spine" i also welded a plate into one of the triangles up front to "finish" it..will do the other side tomaro
next up, start on the floor pans
well shit i cant upload any attatchments ...sites FUBAR atm...sending pm
lets try again
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