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Dr.Jass

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I don't care how cheap it is at the municipal auction, don't buy a 2021 Durango Pursuit ex-squad car. A brake job will probably put you in the poorhouse.

While the pads & rotors are (very) slowly appearing in the aftermarket, the $244 (each) front and $222 (each) rear calipers remain dealer-only. No, none of the ones listed on RockAuto will fit. Up until a couple of months ago, the only brake pads available were the Mopar parts, a walloping $334.00 out back and $554.00 for the front dealer list. You read that right. Rotors? Not bad. The fronts are but $180.00 each, while the rears are a positive bargain @ $148.00 each. Assuming you don't need calipers, that's $1544 to do four wheels of brakes. Two calipers will quickly put you at two grand, and that doesn't include any labor.
Non-factory? Well, Powerstop is the only company doing pads, but the rears are backordered until at least the end of May (no definite ETA). The fronts ain't inexpensive. Dynamic Friction lists front & rear rotors, but I'm not confident yet of the fit (I'll find out). Right now, DF appears to be online-only, so expect a beating on shipping.

But Jass, you say, Shirley the parts will come down in price eventually. My response? Don't bet the bank on it, Laverne. It's two-plus years old already and none of the major brake players have jumped into this game. 2020 parts definitely don't fit, '22 is the same, and I've no idea about '23 yet. Based on what I've seen recently, I would not be surprised to see the Mopar parts discontinued in the next couple of years and that the aftermarket heavy hitters won't see the value in making them. Mind you, other law-enforcement-sounding models do not use the same brakes: Citadel and Enforcer are different. R/T and SRT are different as well. The Pursuit is its own specific model with a unique brake package, option code BR9. All BR9 cars are Pursuits and vise-versa.
Worse yet, the brakes don't apparently wear well. The specific vehicle to which I'm referring had new front brakes installed in November and the rears were done in September. All four wheels are screaming already. It's so bad they had to withdraw from a chase yesterday because the officer feared for his life braking at 80MPH. With no other option, it needs another $334 (list) set of Mopar pads out back. Some of the savings in the aftermarket rotors evaporated in the $85 shipping but at least I was able to save him a ton on the front pads.

I get a pretty good deal on OE Mopar, and I do whatever I can to keep my customers' costs down while keeping my lights on and the building warm. This go-round was almost $400 less than the last, but it's still ludicrous. The only reason it's this expensive is because Steliatgeopar or whatever they're called this week knows the government will pay it without question--screw the taxpayers actually footing the bill.
 
If you think that's nosebleed territory, let's consider the Helldemon or whatever the top-option Durango is called. Dealer list prices given.

Front pads: $757.00 for the axle set
Front rotors: $1,100.00 each... each!
Rear pads: $447.00, axle set
Rear rotors: $324.00 each

I didn't bother looking up the Brembo caliper prices because I was already getting light-headed.

Before one says, "Well, if you can afford a Durango SRT Hello Kitty you can swing the parts," I know a guy with one. He ain't rich; he's making payments. I'm pretty sure he'd shit a brick at the prospect of a $5,000 brake job, and by the way he beats it I'm guessing it will be a surprise.

If your significant other thinks old performance cars are expensive, they should probably look at new ones.
 
A very good friend is the safety guru at out local city works garage. They do all the mechanical work on city vehicles, including po-po units.
Al reviews all purchasing options in regards to safety and security, so he gets a good look at the entire package, reviews, pricing, maintainance forecasts, etc.
He shakes his head every time he talks about it, saying "no wonder the city budget is ever-increasing"...
The city has Chargers as their patrol cars, a good selection of Suburbans and two or three Ford SUVs. No Durangos.
 
Man, Al's going to have a kitten if he has to replace a non-functioning forward emergency/headlamp in one of those Fords. They're only sold as a unit. The police in the town where I work have Interceptor Utilities. One of the flashing LEDs failed and the replacement assembly was $800+. He thought I was trying to screw him. Luckily, the dealer told him no, it's really that expensive. Even more luckily, they warrantied it for them.
 
they shoulda never stepped away from the CV...that car is/was still as good as it gets for PI as it gets, simple yet indestructable and cheep....hell they could have made some "updates" to it and made it a animal..with just some aftermarket goodies
 
Problem was, the cops hated the Crown Vics. Uncomfortable, poor-handling and pig slow were just some of the complaints (the Interceptor was 5MPH slower than the civilian model--before lights or any equipment were installed). They also weren't particularly well-built, but they were cheap to repair since the platform was decades old (1979). Purchasing departments loved 'em because they were cheap. They got even cheaper once the Charger Pursuits dropped and Chevrolet upgraded the cop Tahoe package. Ford had to discount the Vic so heavily just to sell any that the decision to cancel was easy. Lord knows they couldn't give away the civilian version in the '00s.
 
I wouldn't mind having a CV refitted with as many hot rod parts as I can find. Maybe I'd volunteer to go grocery shopping more often.

Ditto an old Diplomat or Gran Fury.
 
Problem was, the cops hated the Crown Vics. Uncomfortable, poor-handling and pig slow were just some of the complaints (the Interceptor was 5MPH slower than the civilian model--before lights or any equipment were installed). They also weren't particularly well-built, but they were cheap to repair since the platform was decades old (1979). Purchasing departments loved 'em because they were cheap. They got even cheaper once the Charger Pursuits dropped and Chevrolet upgraded the cop Tahoe package. Ford had to discount the Vic so heavily just to sell any that the decision to cancel was easy. Lord knows they couldn't give away the civilian version in the '00s.
One of the big reason why the CV was dropped was that it was built in the very antiquated St Thomas assembly plant, just outside of London , Ontario.
About an hour from here.

An old plant, a dinosaur chassis, new anticipated direction of HD service requirements, and a Chrysler Pursuit package that was kicking ass in all prototype testing.

A customer from Michigan who was one of the engineers at the Chrysler Bramalea plant told me that that LEO requirements meant not only significantly redesigned platforms, but a zero-tolerance assembly plant capabilities. Something that would have cost Ford dearly.
 
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Personally, I liked the big Vics.
But, after working in a few shops where rear-ended Vic wrecks came in, I'd not want to be in one when it got nailed.
But, then again, I own a Beetle so... ;)
 
But, after working in a few shops where rear-ended Vic wrecks came in, I'd not want to be in one when it got nailed.
Not surprising, since they're body-on-frame. Notoriously bad in crashes and terrible for handling. There's a reason everyone else stopped doing it years ago on anything but pickups.

fast and bulletproof
I'm not sure why you keep saying "bulletproof" in regards to Vics. They're not even rubber-bullet-resistant. They break and fail just like any other car; they've no mythos or legend about durability of which I'm aware. Certainly not enough power to hurt itself, I guess. They're just heavy, slow, ill-handling pigs. I know this: I've never heard a cop say a good thing about 'em.
 
Honestly, I haven't considered a newer Mopar in years. We daily drive a Civic and a Rav4. The only Mopar we have now is 50+ years old.
 

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