Screw this Ebay ripoff artist. Dammit!

not a charger

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Scott Land, aka "Grog62" on Ebay. He's from Illinois and sells mostly Mopar stuff.

I bought what he advertised as a set of NOS vent windows for the upcoming resto of my wife's 64 Valiant convertible. I paid a decent chunk for them, but stuff like this is hard to find for early a-bodies, and the ones on our car are junk.

Anyway, I pay via check (with his permission) 2 days after the auction ends. I sent multiple emails to confirm he received it, and finally got a reply after a few of them. It took him over a month to ship them, and when I got them, I saw that one was indeed NOS, while the other was used. Nice condition, but not NOS and not as nice as the NOS one in the deal...still a used part.

Now, the used part was in good enough shape that I definately wanted to keep it, but I emailed him some pix that show, clearly, that the part was used. He claimed he didn't know (lol sure he didn't), and agreed to refund $40 of the purchase price. This was 2 months after the initial transaction.

Since then, I've sent him numerous emails, and the only reply I've gotten was a "my computer crashed, who are you?" type email. Needless to say, no refund.

Now, in hindsight, I guess I rolled the dice. I didn't stop to think that, in his auction picture, one of the windows had the upper pivot, and one did not. I wasn't 100% sure that a new window came without the pivot. Also, though he has 98% positive feedback, the 2% negative are all for issues similar to mine...inaccurate descriptions, refusal to ship, refusal to refund, that kind of thing. I guess I learned a lesson here, and I'm glad it wasn't worse than it was.
 
Here are some pix. Dirt, pits, and clearly some wear on the lower pin, which can only happen from being in a car, which would make the part used, would it not?
 

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weve all been burned on ebay atleast once....im extreamly picky about what i buy.....i over payed for a USED nitro rc boat...said to be in good running condition ....engine didnt have any life left in it(120$ to replace) the exhaust system was half missing and cut up with a share blade(40$ to replace) and the gastank was cracked in multiple spots(20 bucks and 3 month wait)...i payed 120+ 25 for shipping...the boat is about 350$ new.....lets just say running wasnt an option...but running good was never going to happen


hell i took DETAILED pic;s of the boat ebay basicly said to bad sorry about your luck and blew me off....
 
thats why we leave feedback sucks when they delay until feedback is past still one NOS and one nice vent wings are more than I have on my 2 a bodys
 
that sucks , NAC :mad: did you report him to ebay ? leave negitive feed back if you still can . i buy some stuff on ebay and i really dont like to see the seller to have bad feed back , that kinda steers me away from the item im looking at .
this guy sounds like a shister to me , the whole thing that his computer crashed and who are you is bullshit .
i sell stuff on ebay , i take alot of pride in making sure the i describe the item the best i can , and pack the item as if it was a vace from the ming dynasty , and the ship it ASAP .
im into selling stuff on ebay to make money , but not to rip people off .

the best way to protect youself as a buyer is to use pay pal on ebay .

i hope this guy comes thru for you and isnt trying to rip you off

good luck :bravo:

here is the his feed back score

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=grog62&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true&seeallfeedback=See%20All%20Feedback








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Break his kneecaps!! NAC!!

Ive actually never been screwed on Ebay...'cause Ive never bought anything off of there...

Makes it harder to pursue this hobby, but after I got some fenders and doors outta Oregon (Hemmings) , I resolved to never buy anything expensive sight-unseen again :mad:

They WERE rust-free but I can only imagine what they looked like under those gallons of mud... I got lucky and the guy stood behind his stuff, but I coulda just as easily got a $1000 lesson...

From RAVs post, this guy looks like he decides to screw somebody every now and again. Hopefully he'll stick it to the wrong person... Illinois isn't too far from Ohio. You think he'd pick people from the other side of the country...

At least its $40, not $400.

Hope all else is going OK, man.

-M
 
If he's "wanted", and you have a current address, forward it to the proper authorities, show him what justice is really like. It won't get you any money back, but it will slow down his deceptive practices for a little while.
 
Finding him on that deadbeat dad site was awesome NAC :)

God I love the internet. The more word gets spread around about fools like this the better.
 
Didn't someone post somthing about him in the E-bay scam section of this site? I think perhaps it was Jass. I am almost positive the guys name was Scott.
 

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