Rusty's not very quiet cuda progress

That's a hell of a place to put a fuel filter, now I know why everyone goes to hoses!!!

Now that I see where the old carb line is I'll see where that takes the other end of my new line??????????
 
So those last parts I got from Vans I had in the cart at year one, shipping was 28 bucks, I put in the discount code & saved 32 bucks, when I hit checkout they raised the shipping to 35, that pissed me off, closed the window & went looking elsewhere.
 
That's a hell of a place to put a fuel filter, now I know why everyone goes to hoses!
Well, it's not like it needs to be service that often, and of course the dealer techs had hoists.

So those last parts I got from Vans I had in the cart at year one, shipping was 28 bucks, I put in the discount code & saved 32 bucks, when I hit checkout they raised the shipping to 35, that pissed me off, closed the window & went looking elsewhere.
Typical Year One of the last 15 or so years. They wonder why they're circling the drain.
 
K, wormed the line down in there, not exact yet but in the general vicinity.
Now to see if the fitting even fits the carb inlet? 20231104_123813.jpg20231104_123929.jpg
 
My wheels are spinning but I'm not getting anywhere!
brought out the carb, tried the new plate & it still seemed to catch, added in one of the old plates & throttle opened smoothly.
I'm gonna need some kind of adaptor here, much larger thread on the carb. 20231104_141806.jpgsticking with the carb theme, I went to put the new adaptor on & the holes didn't line up, so I pulled the yucky one off the other carb & that fit, I think I have the throttle piece in corectly? 20231104_150425.jpg
looking at my kickdown junk the black ones came with the ebay kickdown I bought to replace the one I stole for the 73 the silver is off the 73.20231104_150521.jpgthey all look the same except for the large hole, one on the left matches the 73 one, the black U shaped bracket is bent I can steal that off the old 73 one.
Which black bracket should I use, does it matter?
& finally,20231104_151632.jpg there's another dohickie on the old 73 one, do I need that?
 
looking at my kickdown junk the black ones came with the ebay kickdown I bought to replace the one I stole for the 73 the silver is off the 73.
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they all look the same except for the large hole, one on the left matches the 73 one, the black U shaped bracket is bent I can steal that off the old 73 one.
Which black bracket should I use, does it matter?
Figure out which one has all the parts for the kickdown and use that one.
 
I think there's one set of parts there but 2 brackets & a few leftovers.
I stole the whole setup & put it in the 73 because it had a high rise & 4bbl & was made with a 318 possibly 2bbl.

Just wasted 2 hours looking through old pics, I swear I took em of the setup when I put it on the 73, nadda,
found one good pic of the kickdown adjustment area.

Oh also found that thing that was on the 73 linkage, it was their throttle adaptor to a holly carb.
 
The carburetor adapter was discussed in this post way back on page 149. Unfortunately, I quoted the wrong Edelbrock adapter number, possibly because you had something close on-hand. Search as I might, I can't find the picture of all the carb plates and adapters you had posted at one point.

Regardless, if you've got smooth throttle opening all the way to wide open throttle, you should be OK.
Check throttle function closely; if it hangs up during passing or a foot-down merging manuever, things can get very exciting in a hurry. I'd be very surprised that the throttle opens all the way with that carb on that intake. If it doesn't open all the way but doesn't hang, you still won't be able to adjust your kickdown linkage, which requires the carb be at WOT. Look down the bores and make abso-damned-lutely sure.

My wheels are spinning but I'm not getting anywhere!
brought out the carb, tried the new plate & it still seemed to catch, added in one of the old plates & throttle opened smoothly.
I'm gonna need some kind of adaptor here, much larger thread on the carb.
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You need a 5/8"-20 gasketed straight thread to 5/16" inverted flare adapter. Edelbrock doesn't make one, but this one should do the trick. Stop attempting to modify the line until you have the right part in-hand. All of the aftermarket brand-name ones I found were for 3/8" fuel line. Your line should be 5/16".

All this carb nonsense is why I suggested a ThermoQuad. It just plain fits, and it's a much better carburetor in literally every measure.

While we're on the induction subject, let me know a price for the Strip Dominator intake if you rid yourself of it.

sticking with the carb theme, I went to put the new adaptor on & the holes didn't line up, so I pulled the yucky one off the other carb & that fit, I think I have the throttle piece in corectly?
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Both of those parts do the same thing and mount similarly. One has a bend (made by Edelbrock), one has a cutout for clearance (made by Holley). I believe the Holley part uses a washer between the adapter and the throttle shaft bracket at the lower mounting hole rather than the fancy bend. I've never set one up on an Edelbrock because I don't use those carbs.


looking at my kickdown junk the black ones came with the ebay kickdown I bought to replace the one I stole for the 73 the silver is off the 73.
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they all look the same except for the large hole, one on the left matches the 73 one, the black U shaped bracket is bent I can steal that off the old 73 one.
Which black bracket should I use, does it matter?

Considering every throttle-cable bracket you've got there is a two-barrel part, I'll go with "none of 'em" for $400, Alex. The RH black bracket is for a '74 360, but it won't work with a four-barrel. The other two are 318 parts. The throttle-cable clamp stud is higher and further back on the 360 part.

Two-barrel and four-barrel parts do not interchange. The kickdown parts are different, the throttle-cable bracket is different, and the throttle cable is different. No amount of mixing, matching, bending, cutting, and swearing works. You'll either screw up your throttle travel, smoke your transmission, or both. I fought this battle a lot when I had automatics. The last was on my Fifth Avenue, way back in 2004, but by then I'd learned to get all the parts from the same car with the right carburetor and transmission.

I have no idea what that "dohickie" is other than trash. It's not a Mopar part and I can't imagine what its function might have been. Toss it. The weird little black bracket to the right of the RH bracket that looks like a throttle-cable clamp with an extra stud at a right angle is exactly that. It's a cruise-control throttle cable clamp. The silver one behind it is the standard clamp you'll want to use unless you're installing cruise. If you've no use for the cruise clamp, let me know.

The OE part number for the kickdown rod is 3751570. The throttle bracket is 3577561 and should look like this (except blue):

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I think I have one of those throttle brackets lying around, in the correct color even. Let me do some digging and get back to you on that. If I can't find mine, Van's does offer a reproduction.

This is a photo of all the factory 1974 360HP stuff, from an ended eBay auction I found using OE part numbers. He had two sets; each sold for $275+shipping.

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Here's the factory parts book's diagram of the kickdown assembly. They only show one diagram for small-block, so ignore the fact it shows a 2-barrel. The assembly goes together the same, even though parts don't interchange.
That orange-colored bit is not that inexplicable piece of metal hanging from your silver linkage parts, it's the throttle arm bracket (to which the adapter is bolted on your carb). It isn't really 100% clear in the diagram, which is why I highlighted it.

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Other than possibly having the throttle bracket, I can promise I don't have any other parts for your kickdown. All my automatic stuff went away years ago.
 

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OK, I was just out there trying to figure out the kickdown, I not even sure I have the right rod now.
If it's wrong I will have to hunt down the whole setup, if it's correct then I think all I need is the bracket & if you have that I will give you the intake & the cruise part.
Gonna try & lay out what I have & get some pics up.
Jass I'd be dead without you, much appreciated!
 
Carb adaptor ordered!
Rod looks to be correct, I took it out there & at the least it sits in the right area? 20231105_124650.jpgI was short 1 washer & got a match in my junk drawer. 20231105_124813.jpgI had gone to my book, your diagrams are soooooo much better! 20231105_125856.jpg& finally (well for now anyway) these are the adaptor plates I have now, if buying the other is a better fix I will do it.20231105_125738.jpg
 
I agree, the rod looks like it's the right one. I haven't gotten outside to dig for that bracket yet, though.

I thought you had thicker spacers that were square bore on one side, spread bore on the other. I'll look while I'm outside and see if I can dig one of those out, too. Last I knew, I had three or four of 'em. Don't order anything yet.
 
Well at least I got a few things done today on the positive side, seems not much else is going well.
Started with the tranny lines, they were laying right on the headers in a few spots.
mucho prying & pushing & I managed to get an inch or so clearance everywhere but right at the flange! 20231105_133553 - Copy.jpg20231105_133724.jpg20231105_133609.jpgthen I tried the heat gun on the carpet, didn't help much & it burns that jute pretty quick!!!
Spread it out again, more weight on the passenger side & cut the hole for the dimmer foot switch, wondering if it will ever lay down! 20231105_140549.jpg
Then I stuck in the charcoal canister, don't know why I bothered but at least one line will go to the right place? 20231105_150433.jpg
& got lucky on the fuel filter, the one I had was the right size, so I got that ready to go on when the carb adaptor gets here! 20231105_150938.jpg
 
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OK, I'm not saying I don't have those parts...

...I'm just saying if I do, they're in places inaccessible to me in my current physical state. 😖

I went through the entire garage, except for the two probably-80lb buckets of metal parts I have slated to go through the tumbler. I'm almost positive there's at least one carb adapter in one of the buckets, but I can't do a thing about those at the moment, and probably not for awhile yet. I found a few throttle brackets, but one's for '71 & older (totally different kickdown setup), one's for a big block, and one is someone's functional-but-ugly adapted creation from my crate Magnum engine. I have no idea what that critter started life as, but it's like nothing I've seen previously. It doesn't even have kickdown provisions, not that it would bolt to an LA engine anyhow.

I'm going to guess I don't have the throttle bracket, per se. There's definitely one on that complete '74 360HP I bought back in July, but I'm not removing any parts from that engine. It's just too complete. Every nut, bolt and washer in that engine is original equipment; the car was rolled in 1979 with just 18,000 miles on it.
 
No problemo, I will order the new one from vans & double check full throttle with those plates, worst case I'll wait on the correct parts # from you on the carb plate, don't think I'm doing anything with the car tomorrow anyway, will check them monday!

lost a day, I meant tuesday!
 
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