Dealers closing?

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giowest

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I heard of 2 today. Glenwood Springs Chrysler closing at months end and Ferrero Chrysler Jeep shut it's doors this morning.
Chrysler is taking over the inventory at Ferrero and may re-open it to sell off inventory at a big discount.

Any of you seeing this yet?[smilie=f:
 
Nothing here yet.
Supposedly, car sales in Canada are up slightly the last few months.
 
swiped from various threads on other forums:

Seattle area:

Lynnwood Dodge - DEAD

Bill Pierre Dodge - Dead?

BBC Dodge - 1/2 Dead and going fast

Dwayne Lane - Moved to intensive care

Lithia Dodge - Rumors of death soon

Puyallup Chrysler....died a few months ago...

Brewer Chrysler (Auburn) ....Gone

South Central PA:

Brenner Dodge - Dead

Naugle Motors (Dodge, Chrys, Jeep) - Bought out by another dealer (not by choice)

WSJ article estimates 700 new car dealerships will close by 2008..
[url]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122515313773474407.html[/URL]

Haynes Chrysler/Jeep in Richmond Virginia. Been in business for over 50 years and it closed up about two months ago

Sam Dell Dodge in Syracuse, NY seems to be no more

Dave Croft in Collinsville IL filed bankrupcy but still breathing!

Heritage Chrysler Dodge (South Hill, VA) is no more

Clermont County, Ohio Area: Joe Kidd Dodge-DEAD...Replaced by school offices.

Northern KY area
Champion Dodge - Died a couple months back

Historical location of the Everett, Wa Dodge dealer is no more.

BBC in Burien has downsized to 1/2 the lot
BBC Dodge just closed its service and parts department

Brewer Chrysler down in Auburn merged with Tom Matson Dodge

they are forcing all the dealers to have all 3 chrysler brands under one roof , thus shutting down dealers that have been in buisness for many years

Tom Manzi Dodge in Lawrence MA - closed

Bil Pierre Dodge and Lynnwood Dodge have closed for good
 
This is sad. However, on a brighter note, local auto supply dealers and smaller garages are reporting more business, since more people are wanting to fix their cars, rather than buy new (or used). Sometimes one person's famine can be another's feast.
The Chrysler dealer we use in Grimsby has also told me that their parts/service department is busy, and sales are also not too bad, considering. I like that...... :rolleyes:
 
FRIEND of mine went an hour south of Detroitto a Nissan dealer - his wife bout a car and they delivered it to Sarnia and they saved 10,200 dollars - so he goes back and buys a pickup truck - top of the line and the deliver to the brigde and all the custom papers are done for him. all he did was say his name and bring it over. saved himself 15,700. from buying over here. so they saved 25,900 . thats alot of cake folks. thats another hi-priced car over there . his cousin went there and they have another lot and he bought a 2007 Escalde loaded for 23000. YUP tells ya somthin is up. and the warranties are good. and they can get them serviced here. the lots here arent really moving. if i had the money i would do the same thing. the car is on payments. so go figure. --- internet shopping for deals. it seems like its all 1 world and how far would you go for a deal. he got a new snowblade for it in Utica Mich. and paid 4000 installed -- over here 6300. and it is serviced over here. .. i think you will see deals made now that you will never see again. another friend bought a house across the river in Mich. went to see it they wanted 160,000-- went back 3 weeks later 80,000 went back to see it again because the banks and housing went nutz and bought it for 32,000. paid the bank 60% and no downpayment. and mortgage is 200 a month . friends rent it. i think you will see alot of things. we really havent felt it yet. but when we do i hope i am in position . even if it small. . cars are going cheap houses food . everythings has to get corrected. it wouldnt be a bad time to say to credit cards - i want a rate change and you will get it. i am thinking of going solar . and go off the grid and if i can send it back down the line i can get paid for it. work all the angles people work it. we should hav a forum that can show how to make generators or something. i have a whole list of stuff. i would survive .. i know it . :) this country boy knows how to survive.:toot:
 
Clermont County, Ohio Area: Joe Kidd Dodge-DEAD...Replaced by school offices.
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Wrong! In fact they are the only stand alone Dodge Dealer left in Cincinnati.
Now, Holman Chevrolet in Bethel OH is closed and is now school offices. I was told that the staff showed up for work at 7:300 and the locks were changed. The GM showed up at 9:00 and told everyone the place was closed, Chevy was coming to get the stock in a week or two. Sorry about your luck and every one got the 6 finger separation package. :finger:
But in the past couple of years the following in Cincinnati have gone tits up:
Moser Dodge, Marshall Dodge, Kings Jeep, Colerain Dodge, Kenmont Dodge, Riverside Dodge, Kneer Chrysler, Castruci Jeep, Kingswood Chrysler, Cline Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep and Champion Dodge (also known as Dodgeland)
Looking back, I used to deal with all of those guys and alot of good people have fallen off the radar.
Several of the GM and Ford dealers in town have also either changed hands and consolidated with other dealerships or just closed alltogether.
 
Yepper, that's whut cost me my job. Mel Clayton Ford was bought by the Van Tuyl group and consolidated into their Lincoln-Mercury store. Dan Grubb Ford just up and closed in September. Rumor mill in the Greater Phoenix area has 2 more Ford dealerships likely to go tits-up soon. Auto Nation has closed a few dealerships in the area, and may close a few more. Penske Group is supposed to be closing a couple of high-end dealers this year in Scottsdale. And we had one of the Bill Heard Chevrolet dealerships close in August, just before they shut them all down nationwide. There's so many partsmen looking for jobs out here, I can't get a decent offer even with 30 + years of Ford experience. It's a crock of shit, I tell ya.:(
 
Lots of dealers did this to themselves with crappy customer service and ridiculous pricing... and the rest can be attributed to the US car companies' production of so much crap in the past few decades. I hate it for the employees of these places, but all that surprises me is that it's taken this long. You can only slap the car-buying public so many times before they start to feel it sting.

Learical, please don't take this as an insult because it's not intended as one, but the self-explanatory nature of Ford's part-number system (once you learn it) means that after a couple of years you're worth as much as the guy with 30 years under his belt.
but they can pay you a ton less. Your average schmoe can be a Ford parts expert in well under 5 years. I've never worked Ford parts or owned a Ford other than the EXP I had for a week, and I know what a D0VE head is and why it's numbered as such. GM and Chrysler both have complete nonsense part numbers for the most part, and if you really wanna have fun try the aftermarket with 60 different lines all of whom have their own numbering system other than brake pads and shoes.

I say this because I live across the alley from a guy who was the local Ford dealership's go-to guy for at least 17 years, and since he left (because he refused to take orders from a woman) he's been just another parts guy needing a job. I can pull a casting number off some hunk of scrap in my pile, and he can tell me what it came from, the first year of production, how long it was used, and usually to what it superceded. With all that expertise, he works at the local NAPA for a lot less money than I made when I was hourly and is simply happy to have a job. Of course, at NAPA he's just another parts-slinger. He's good, but all the Ford experience amounts to somewhere around dick.

I've been in the parts gig for 22+ years, on and off. If I've learned anything, the most important thing is that you often have to accept a job for less than you feel you're worth and prove to the employer that the company can't live without you. The raises will come hard and fast, and if they don't it's no big deal because you've already tightened your belt and you can go elsewhere.

Don't limit yourself to Ford, though... the current shambles that is the American auto industry is exemplified by Ford which is circling closest to the drain. If Comrade... er, President Obama's plan to outlaw bonuses for board members of less-than-successful businesses goes through, the best and brightest of American business will stay away from the auto industry to take jobs where they can be rewarded for their achievements. Of course, Obama has to pursue that course of action, since a large part of his winning vote came from the unions that are killing this country, and he can't possibly go ask the guy that screws a brake line onto the frame of an Explorer to do it for less than the $81/hr in wages and benefits that he currently costs FoMoCo (and no, that's not an exaggeration). No, sir, you couldn't pay me enough to leave the aftermarket parts biz and go back to a dealer parts gig. Auto Value will be here long after the four domestic dealerships in the area have long been closed.
 
not from this round of economic woes but last year due to the inability to meet sales quotas and I'm sure the service dept wasn't sending in enough $$ either.

Cooper's Osage Chrysler
 
Dr.Jass said:
I've been in the parts gig for 22+ years, on and off. If I've learned anything, the most important thing is that you often have to accept a job for less than you feel you're worth and prove to the employer that the company can't live without you. The raises will come hard and fast, and if they don't it's no big deal because you've already tightened your belt and you can go elsewhere.
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I spent a few years in the auto parts/repair business and DAMN I'm glad I'm out:giggedy:. I really feel bad for those that have lost their jobs do to the big 3 inability to properly manage their finances.

That bold statement right there is the reason I'm still working right now, should have heard all the guys screaming about seniority and all that BS, sorry guys we're not a Union shop (thank God) and I work harder than 90% of the people there
 
Dr.Jass said:
Learical, please don't take this as an insult because it's not intended as one, but the self-explanatory nature of Ford's part-number system (once you learn it) means that after a couple of years you're worth as much as the guy with 30 years under his belt.
but they can pay you a ton less. Your average schmoe can be a Ford parts expert in well under 5 years. I've never worked Ford parts or owned a Ford other than the EXP I had for a week, and I know what a D0VE head is and why it's numbered as such. GM and Chrysler both have complete nonsense part numbers for the most part, and if you really wanna have fun try the aftermarket with 60 different lines all of whom have their own numbering system other than brake pads and shoes.

I say this because I live across the alley from a guy who was the local Ford dealership's go-to guy for at least 17 years, and since he left (because he refused to take orders from a woman) he's been just another parts guy needing a job. I can pull a casting number off some hunk of scrap in my pile, and he can tell me what it came from, the first year of production, how long it was used, and usually to what it superceded. With all that expertise, he works at the local NAPA for a lot less money than I made when I was hourly and is simply happy to have a job. Of course, at NAPA he's just another parts-slinger. He's good, but all the Ford experience amounts to somewhere around dick.

I've been in the parts gig for 22+ years, on and off. If I've learned anything, the most important thing is that you often have to accept a job for less than you feel you're worth and prove to the employer that the company can't live without you. The raises will come hard and fast, and if they don't it's no big deal because you've already tightened your belt and you can go elsewhere.

Don't limit yourself to Ford, though... the current shambles that is the American auto industry is exemplified by Ford which is circling closest to the drain.
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Much truth in what you say. I have trained many people who have wound up replacing me for much less money. I've been looking for a way out of the 'dealership mess' for a few years now, but unfortunately everybody tells me that's all I've ever done, and I should stick to it. The company I'm currently talking to is one of my former customers, and it's not a dealership. (hurray!) It will be a pay cut, I'm sure, but the last offer had was to work 60+ hours a week for little more than what I bring in on unemployment, food stamps and medicare. Oh, that job was as the parts manager. And they wanted me to promise I wouldn't look for another job. I told them I'd take the job, but I couldn't promise I wouldn't leave when the first better opportunity came along. The offer was withdrawn.

BTW, Jass, don't worry about insulting me. Remember, I've been married for nearly 20 years, and I've been called worse by far better people than you!
 
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